US 'Words' Mean Nothing: Commenters Cite Operation Ajax as Proof Agreements Will Be Violated Again
The discussion centers on Iran's claim of a 'historic victory' following the alleged forcing of the US to accept a 10-point peace plan. This event is being dissected for its credibility and expected longevity.
The commentary reveals deep skepticism. Multiple users point to the US's historical record, citing instances like 'perfidy' to argue that any stated agreement is meaningless. Specific users like Llituro detailed this history, while others warned of the US/Israel using 'salami slicing tactics' for perpetual conflict. Conversely, some commenters accepted the premise that a diplomatic breakthrough was achieved based on US acceptance.
The overwhelming weight of opinion dismisses the narrative as pure political theater. The consensus points to ingrained distrust: any supposed peace treaty is viewed as temporary, likely to break down when the US/Israel's strategic interests dictate. The fault line remains between accepting the narrative or expecting another diplomatic failure.
Key Points
The US will honor its word on any agreement.
Commenters repeatedly cite past US actions, such as Operation Ajax, as evidence that keeping promises is not in the US interest.
Iran's 10-point plan is a genuine diplomatic success.
Many argue it is advanced political posturing; wheezy noted that Iran might not fully expect others to abide by all its terms.
Ceasefire will halt US/Israel actions in Gaza, West Bank, and Lebanon.
DancingBear stated the ceasefire will not stop these actions, claiming they will continue under 'defensive purposes'.
The end of hostilities is contingent only on military action, not words.
Awoo insisted true confirmation requires seeing 'movement of military away from Iran,' not diplomatic pronouncements.
The US will respect the stipulated terms of the 10-point plan.
Llituro stressed the historical pattern of US/Zionist 'perfidy,' suggesting the status quo will remain untouched.
Conflict will continue via minor violations after an agreement.
happybadger warned of 'salami slicing tactics' used to keep the conflict perpetual, even after an agreement is signed.
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