Patents on Codecs: Critics Label IP a 'Cancer' as Fees Spike for H.264 and AV1

Post date: April 4, 2026 · Discovered: April 17, 2026 · 3 posts, 118 comments

Licensing fees for foundational video codecs like H.264 and H.265 are drawing intense scrutiny over their perceived necessity. Commenters point to rate disparities, noting that stated maximum fees for AV1 are lower than cited maximums for other codecs.

The debate hammers the utility of patents themselves. Many view the entire intellectual property system as an extractive model, with 'nonentity' calling the notion of IP a 'cancer on society.' 'raicon' strongly advocates for open, royalty-free standards, dismissing patenting mechanisms as a potential scam. Conversely, some acknowledge the historical role of patents but point out their abuse by large corporations, as 'elvith' observed.

The weight of opinion heavily favors deregulation and open standards. Skepticism regarding the core value of patenting basic technology is dominant, with suggestions ranging from abolishing software patents to using Anti-Trust laws to void patents on 'essential technology.'

Key Points

OPPOSE

IP systems inappropriately commodify inherently valuable knowledge.

'nonentity' stated that ideas intrinsically accrue value as they are known and used, challenging the idea of finite IP rights.

SUPPORT

Open formats are superior to proprietary licensing.

'raicon' scored highly by calling open formats the superior path, viewing current patenting as fundamentally flawed.

OPPOSE

Patent holders abuse the system for profit.

Multiple users criticized the system for being exploited by 'big corporations,' leading to unwarranted fees.

OPPOSE

Patents on established codecs should have long since expired.

'collapse_already' specifically questioned the longevity of patents, referencing codecs like H.264 from 2003.

SUPPORT

Structural legal remedies must target the patent system itself.

'raldone01' suggested using Anti-Trust laws to force the voiding of patents on 'essential technology,' proposing a systemic fix.

Source Discussions (3)

This report was synthesized from the following Lemmy discussions, ranked by community score.

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Firm quietly boosts H.264 streaming license fees from $100,000 up to staggering $4.5 million — backbone codec of the internet gets meteoric increase, AVC hikes follow disastrous H.265 licensing increa
[email protected]·159 comments·4/4/2026·by commander·tomshardware.com
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Why aren't streaming media contracts negotiated like 'you will provide us the 4K copies of the entire series; we will stream it forever and you will get X% of the profit..margin...etc in perpetuity'
[email protected]·18 comments·12/3/2023·by _number8_
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When a video codec wins an Emmy | The Mozilla Blog
[email protected]·0 comments·12/10/2025·by greenbelt·blog.mozilla.org