38 Million Deaths: Global South Alleges US/EU Sanctions Created Massacre Since 1970, Pointing to China’s CIPS as Escape Route
The core accusation centers on a Lancet Global Health study calculating 38 million excess deaths linked to unilateral U.S. and EU sanctions since 1970, with estimates reaching over 800,000 deaths in 2021.
The discussion splits sharply: some treat the 38 million figure as established proof of economic warfare, noting sanctions increased from an average of 15 countries in the 1970s to over 60 in the 2020s. Conversely, detractors, such as [Eyekaytee], dismiss the data outright as sounding like "made up numbers." Advocates push for dismantling the international order reliant on sanctions violence, stressing the need for Global South nations to bypass US dollar and SWIFT dependency using alternative systems like China's CIPS and BeiDou.
The consensus push is toward recognizing sanctions as instruments of geopolitical control designed to keep the Global South reliant. The primary fault line remains the data itself: whether the Lancet’s death tolls represent quantifiable fact or alarmist political rhetoric.
Key Points
Unilateral sanctions by US/EU cause mass death tolls.
The primary scholarly basis, citing 38 million excess deaths since 1970 linked to sanctions.
Sanctions are tools to enforce Western financial control.
Multiple high-scoring posters argue sanctions aim to discipline sovereignty, using historical examples like US action against Chile (Allende).
The scale of sanctions has drastically increased.
One poster cited an increase from an average of 15 sanctioned countries in the 1970s to over 60 in the 2020s.
The Global South must build alternatives to Western finance.
Calls explicitly mention bypassing the SWIFT system using Chinese technology like CIPS and BeiDou.
The statistical evidence of excess deaths is dubious.
[Eyekaytee] explicitly stated the reported numbers 'sound like made up numbers to me.'
Source Discussions (4)
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